The Holy Bible

[rcjohnso]

Whoa - is Salinger still alive?  I guess he is, huh?

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ahem, intentionally bad...   I find it hard to believe you're actually that serious about this.  

If you are, what's to be gained from humiliating someone in this way?  That's sick.  What are you trying to prove and who are you trying to impress?  Are you trying to show everyone that you're above me?  Fine, you win.  Oh, and by the way, fuck you.

Salinger would roll in his grave for that attempted imitation, if he were dead.

Sorry, not trying to imitate Salinger.  I don't pretend to be that kind of writer.  

If all you got from Salinger was a memorable tone and an underpaid teacher's cliff notes interpretation of "brass rings" and "innocence lost" at least have the respect to remain silent about it.

Bro, it was a joke, which is why the hack interpretation.  

Clearly the inference of your "review" is that Zooey writes like Salinger.

Not quite.  The idea was to review one of Zooey's bibles, but do a terrible job of it.  The writing sucks, the facts are misrepresented, and the interpretation is thin.  It's as if it were written by a tenth grader, not Zooey...

His writing is not a trick. It is the result of a relentless dismantling and rebuilding of great art like a mechanic with o.c.d. A result of a ritualistic sacrament of communion. A cannibal who eats the heart of his dead enemy to gain his strength. Zooey owns his influences because he murders them. You took a sophmore english class.

You're right, Zooey is Conan the Barbarian.  I'm just a wee elf.

If my response seems harsh it is because I feel it is an unforgivable insult to insinuate that your flippant and artless parroting of Salinger is in any way comparable to Zooey's Writing.

Love the capital W.  I do not think Zooey's writing is an imitation of Salinger.  Influenced, yes, but not a copy.  So we agree.  I hope now you'll forgive the insult.

[Guest]

backpedaling.

[marke]

Dead serious. Some things are important.

[marke]

...but I do apologize if you felt humiliated. That was not the intent of my reply. I was not commenting on your writing (I emphasize "your"), but the implication behind it. I don't know anything about your writing. And any attempt to parody Salinger (or any great author) is doomed from the start. So I guess you had a thankless task.

And that was my thanklessness.

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Dead serious. Some things are important.

Salinger's writing certainly is important.  But to me, there are many things that are more important, one of which is love.  I tend to value people more than any particular person's work.  Your deconstruction was arrogant and mean-spirited, not to mention completely unprovoked.  

I love that you're passionate about Salinger and Hesse and their ilk.  I have had few people in my life that can even appreciate such things, much less talk about them intelligently.  However, your bitter response to my post was devoid of insight.  Clearly you have much to offer, but no one will hear what you have to say unless you learn how to communicate with love.  Or at least, tolerance.  

So here it is, without a drip of sarcasm:  I've got a lot to learn from you.  Let's talk.

[marke]

You are right. But I should make clearer that I feel the "important" thing, to me, was Zooey, not Salinger. My reaction, though centered on your review, was motivated by what I interpreted to be a mean-spirited attack on Zooey's writing...essentially playing the "I'm smart enough to recognize your influence" game and calling him on it.

Now I know Zooey probably would not have been offended by your review, and probably would have found it entertaining.

In my defense, I will just say I have a tendency to be overly protective of my brother. This, however, does not excuse me from taking it out on you.

I don't think I am smarter than you. I know you are well-read, intelligent, humorous, and artistic.

So I apologize for whatever in my response was mean-spirited, but stand behind the passion and the defence of Zooey. However, I do believe that I misinterpreted your review as an insult to Zooey. I'm sure you were just having fun.

I guess you're right that I'm the most misinterpreted person on the forum.

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In my defense, I will just say I have a tendency to be overly protective of my brother.

I hear you on that, and it's certainly noble of you.  I know I feel the same way about my brother.  And I'm pretty sure you and I are the same age, with A. and Z. just a year apart.  So let me just say I understand.

I'll also say that I've loved the little of Zooey's writing I've read, and would never attack it.  Unless it turns out he really is Bruce the male model.    :blink:

However, I do believe that I misinterpreted your review as an insult to Zooey. I'm sure you were just having fun.

I guess you're right that I'm the most misinterpreted person on the forum.

So now I've gotten a taste of it myself.  It sucks.  Anyhow, I'm glad we're straight.  I was getting worried there for a bit.

Now I know Zooey probably would not have been offended by your review, and probably would have found it entertaining.

I must admit my biggest reason for posting it was to get Zooey to respond.  Where the hell are you??

[rcjohnso]

Goddammit, I was really enjoying the tension there for awhile.

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hehehe  

Tension is a good thing, as we learned from Nathan's lecture.

[marke]

Sorry, Rian. As Mary J. Blige put it so well, "No More Drama in My Life."

And whoops, I am also glad we're straight. Believe it or not, I don't really like confrontation and I do like you.   :wub:

Love reigns on the forum once again. Brotherly, and otherwise.

[marke]

active is right.    

[unknownperson]

looks like I missed out on an interesting half day...

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Oh, and speaking of Conan the Barbarian...

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Sorry, Rian. As Mary J. Blige put it so well, "No More Drama in My Life."

And whoops, I am also glad we're straight. Believe it or not, I don't really like confrontation and I do like you.   :wub:

Love reigns on the forum once again. Brotherly, and otherwise.

Yeah, so back away all you rubberneckers, with those pansy-ass innocent bystander expressions.  You want blood and guts?  Just look at the floor by your feet where I've just reflexively discharged my innards in dramatic fashion.  Not so entertaining when your own trousers get sloppy, is it?  You make me sick.



marke, on the other hand, you make me all warm and fuzzy.